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Is ANYONE in this vehicle on PROBATION or PAROLE
May 10 2026 11:32AM more by SmartK9
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I was recently contacted by a member to explain what can happen if someone answers YES to the above question. First of all let me explain the situation. You are driving a vehicle that is stopped for a valid reason. You have passengers in your car. Unbeknownst to you they have dubious backgrounds. When the officer approaches he/she asks, is anyone on probation or parole. All 3 of your now former friends raise their hands. Everyone is ordered out of the car and searched(you are searched for a different reason) . The passenger area of your car is searched where they were sitting and/or had access to. Just how can the cops search them and where they were sitting without a warrant OR probable cause?

Reason number 1 BRAVO TERMS. If a person is placed on supervised probation they will have search terms. One condition of probation is that the person give up their 4th amendment protection rights via BRAVO TERMS. The person on probation is consenting to the search without a warrant or probable cause as part of the agreement to be placed on probation.

Reason number 2 PAROLE TERMS. Same situation if a person agrees to be released on PAROLE as opposed to doing all their time they will have agreed to give up their 4th Amendment rights (just like above)

June.Moon I await your debate.
      
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loucfirr1
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May 10 2026 11:49AM     link to this

Choose a better ride share!
June.Moon
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May 10 2026 01:56PM     link to this

There's really nothing to debate. I don't have criminal friends so I don't know the exacts of the situation but I know that legally anyone under probation or parole is subjected to be searched at any time which will include my car or whatever vehicle is being operated




I think the best thing to do is not hang out with jailbirds and life should run smoothly

Or get an Uber lol



Sorry love I have nothing 🤣😘
NismoZ32
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May 10 2026 02:24PM     link to this

June, what if you are the uber?
dznutzgg
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May 10 2026 02:35PM     link to this

Although it could be a 4th ammendment violation this website says it's been challenged and is legal


Alternatively just stay away from shady people
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June.Moon
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May 10 2026 02:40PM     link to this

Lol well shoot I didn't think about that . I don't drive Uber so I'm not sure because my assumption would be that they're still required to get searched even if it's just your job to pick people up


Common sense would be like "idk them and have nothing to do with their lifestyle"

But also there are loop holes because what if I do work for Uber on the side but I'm just picking up a friend for a ride still . Cop doesn't know if you're on call for Uber or off call for a personal ride



That's a tricky one I'll have to look into it


But agree.. staying away from shady people is the best option. I like my freedom too much to hang around people that will jeopardize that in any way
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May 10 2026 03:22PM     link to this

Hi June, this is just for info only. Looked at your network list and I see a few girls whom
we're on probation and parole.
I won't share names but I know of at least 6 girls who are active on this car that
are on Probation!

Lets just say you decide to do a doubles date with another guy or go for a shopping/dinner date with a hex girl just for fun. You or she gets pulled over for speeding and and the officer asks the question that was above.
She raises her hand and your reaction would be "WTH".


Just be careful whom you hangout with in this car?

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May 10 2026 03:47PM     link to this

The women in my network were met in passing at hx events and most of them have their own cars. I have not done doubles with anyone except one and she is FAR from a criminal


in the event that I do a double with a girl she or the man will be responsible for her transportation. That has nothing to do with me, I just get the location and meet where im needed
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May 10 2026 03:48PM     link to this

wait 6?!?

because I only have like 9 females in my network ... LMFAOOO oh lord!
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May 10 2026 03:51PM     link to this

The website says the entire car can b searched even if only the front passenger is on parole as they can slip things without u knowing. So not even uber is immune. Choose ur friends/providers wisely
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May 10 2026 04:12PM     link to this

Bottom line, don't hang around on paperwork. If you are driving or in the vicinity of anyone on probation or parole, you are subject to search and questioning. It has always been like that; you got to know who you are dealing with.
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May 10 2026 04:18PM     link to this

Their known as "4th Wavier" being in your car limits your 4th amendment. I've always had Co-workers who are 4th waivers, cant avoid that.
Giving co-workers rides to the nearest bus stop, saving them 40 minute walk, is more important to me than the potential of a search, which wont find anything any ways.

Past job, the operational manager would carpool with a co-worker who is a 4th wavier and has the car. Police ran license plate, either automatic reader or saw driving while black, 4th waiver detected. Pulled over, held them for an hour. Those officers caused our office's operations to stop, because they held our operational manager. We didn't recover out-put till around noon, 4 hours later.
SmartK9
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May 10 2026 04:30PM     link to this

Just another point to make the parole and probation search just doesn’t apply to vehicles. Homes apartments, motel/hotel rooms can also be tossed if ANYONE is found to be on probation or parole is found inside. If the person who has the search terms rented the place the whole place can be searched if they are just there common areas and their own space can be searched.
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May 10 2026 04:33PM     link to this

That's one of the elements of "How Not to Get Your Ass Kicked by the Police" by Chris Rock"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
SmartK9
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May 10 2026 04:41PM     link to this

Total comedy
June.Moon
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May 10 2026 05:17PM     link to this

Idk I don't think it's ever that serious as long as the people on parole or probation don't try to blame you for things that aren't yours.


I have family members with a past and I wouldn't deny them of rides because I'm aware of their status, plus they'd be completely honest and accountable if something was found in the event of getting pulled over. I don't know the people on this site well enough to offer rides plus the ladies that I talk to have their own vehicles and live too far to catch or want rides


as far as being in the same house or whatever idk. I'm not going to a social to ask everyone if they're on probation or parole lol. It's just one of those things where each person has to be aware, honest and keep discernment no matter what




Plus I hear that bad girls have the best sex so idk lol.
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May 10 2026 06:48PM     link to this

Is June like the get away driver from GTA?
June.Moon
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May 10 2026 07:31PM     link to this

Lol that's what the heck I'm trying to figure out


Hahahahaaa. Is there something I don't know? 🤔 Y'all plotting something without me
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May 10 2026 07:36PM     link to this

@yellowB2: I have watched the video countless times of the years! Hilarious! Best advice ever is STFU.
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May 10 2026 07:37PM     link to this

@yellowB2: I have watched that video countless times over the years! Hilarious! Best advice ever is STFU
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May 10 2026 09:09PM     link to this

Why are none of the girls in his network that he claims are in your network that are on parole? How do you know this info? Please do tell!
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May 10 2026 09:11PM     link to this

I want to know the juicy gossip he knows bc not one girl that is in your network is in his
I am just amused at this point. Bc a lot of men on this site like to make stuff up


June ily 😂
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May 10 2026 09:12PM     link to this

Parole/ probation


Why are they not in your network?



what da hellly!
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May 10 2026 09:15PM     link to this

All the women in your network I adore, and they ALL drive their own car that they either lease or own including myself I’m SO confused because I personally know all of them.



Oh my goodness lol
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May 10 2026 09:21PM     link to this

SmartK9, you're driving, what did you do to give the police probable cause to stop you?
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May 10 2026 09:22PM     link to this

😂😂😂😂


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May 10 2026 09:32PM     link to this

Yeah I’d like to ask that too. Because we don’t just get stopped for no reason. Are your tags not updated? Do you have a criminal background when police randomly run your license? Do you look sketchy? You don’t get stopped for no reason. Why would you get stopped?


And why are your posts always about police, you seem paranoid. Maybe this isn’t the hobby for you?
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May 10 2026 10:07PM     link to this

SmartK9 I mean that in a very respectful way, and was curious because we have chatted in pms
You are a kind soul



I just for one do not like when I meet someone and they are very paranoid it ruins the time.

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May 10 2026 10:18PM     link to this

Girl idk haha




The men do talk ALOT in their clubs so he could have heard something in the clubs but hell, now I'm curious too .LOL
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May 10 2026 10:26PM     link to this

Hmmm... maybe he's an ex k9 cop who retired due to cancer. It all makes sense now 😅

If there's any gossiping I'm not invited to it. Pleb status
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May 10 2026 10:52PM     link to this

Are you asking me to be a Witness against myself ?
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May 10 2026 10:54PM     link to this

As many of you know, I take pretty good notes. I can't find a single one on any of the ladies currently in June's network being on parole or probation. And I know several of them fairly well (sat between two of them at lunch just a week ago)...though I can't recall asking any of them, or anyone at all in my entire life, if they were on probation or parole. But who knows, I may have missed something.

Regarding "what did you do to get pulled over", all due respect but this sounds naive. "Driving while black" is not a made up thing, it is real. Just like being asked your immigration status when you have Latin American heritage. As a white guy, I have never been pulled over for no reason. I have also never been asked if I am a citizen. I guarantee the same could not be said of many of my friends who don't share my complexion.
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May 11 2026 12:20AM     link to this

If you are on parole or probation you still have strict rules you must follow. You're freedom is not 100% guaranteed nor are you entitled to it. Only if they stay out or trouble, pass random check-ins and drug tests, and comply with all terms of their probation or parole may their total freedom be reinstated.

They admitted they were on some kind of supervised release. Either way, if they lied or had told the truth they will be searched. In certain circumstances simply hanging with other 'felons' can be a breach of their release. Regardless, they are allowed to be searched at any time, reason being, they signed over those rights when they accepted the terms of their probation or their parole agreement.

As for the driver / owner of the car they are always responsible for the people in their car and knowing who they are. They are also responsible for anything found in that vehicle whether its drugs, guns, contraband, other weapons, etc.

I assume if the driver broke no major law, was not impaired, had no outstanding warrants or tickets, has a clean driving record and committed a minor infraction or violation and where nothing illegal was found in their car, they would be allowed to leave the scene.

I have a 5-year BA in Criminal Justice though I graduated a long time ago and in a different state. I imagine most of the laws that apply here would be similar across the board.
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May 11 2026 12:23AM     link to this

@JuneMoon Love - Why are they always messing with you on here?!?! haha

I'm sure it's because you're so loved and adored. June only keeps the best crew.
SmartK9
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May 11 2026 12:29AM     link to this

So much for taking good notes. This is a hypothetical, if you read the blog it clearly states ….pulled over for a valid reason. For brevity sake I left it at that. Race, paranoia whether I’m a 74 year old retired K9 cop (seriously at 74) with cancer (that part is true) . My handle is true I have a SmartK9 a canine a dog. She is incredibly smart and cute. That’s it.

I post blogs about this stuff because someone asked me to answer a question about his situation. I thought it was of some public interest and it was until the commenters started relying on the comments instead of the actual blog.

And you are correct Kira except I’m definitely not paranoid I have absolutely no reason to be and I’m going to bed, I’m old, tired and it’s way past my bedtime. Besides I’m keeping my SmartK9 up.
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May 11 2026 05:53AM     link to this

SmartK9:

In California, providing legal advice or services as a nonlawyer is considered the Unauthorized Practice of Law (UPL) and is a crime under Business and Professions Code 6126.

MISDEMEANOR: Violations can lead to penalties of up to 364 days in county jail, a $1,000 fine, or both. Only active members of the State Bar of California are authorized to give legal advice.Key Aspects of UPL in

Californiaefinition: UPL is broadly defined as providing legal advice, drafting legal documents, or representing someone in court without a license.Criminal Penalties: Nonlawyers can face misdemeanor charges, with stricter penalties for repeat offenders.

PROVIDING FEEE LEGAL ADVICE: It is NOT A defense to argue that you did not charge for the "legal" advice.Examples of Prohibited Activity: Advising on legal rights, drafting legal documents (like contracts or deeds), and negotiating legal matters on behalf of others.
SmartK9
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May 11 2026 06:13AM     link to this

Lawforza1 are you brain dead? If you can interpret my blog as legal advice then telling someone not to drink and drive can land you in jail or don’t take drugs it’s against the law or if you drive in the carpool lane by yourself you might get in trouble, my current blog if you drive around with parolees or people on supervised probation could get you involved in a guilt by association situation.

Stay in you lane L F you have no idea what you are talking about so if you still think I’m culpable then I’ll say COME AND GET ME COPPERS!

Take your paralegal certificate and move on but I might be giving you to much credit.

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May 11 2026 06:56AM     link to this

It's all love Applebottom lol Smart and I would have mini debates (parking in hotel parking lots for too long, etc) and I think someone asked him to post this



It's just a little fun and entertainment plus I'm the only girl that actively engaged in blogs so it's causes a higher probability that I will be criticized more.


As far as other stuff that be me lol I usually say the things to people that others are afraid to and sometimes it hurts folks feelings .



Can't help it though I got mental issues (ADHD justice sensitivity) .. but I'm working on it I promise lmao 🫣🥺🤣
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