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You got to try and figure what gets into people? What kind of person would do such a thing?
So sorry this happened to you.
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This is a crazy story . I’m sorry this happend to you ,
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I am so sorry this happened to you.
You should name the person if you can. This is the kind of behavior that gets repaid twice as harshly by others. Just because you are paying doesn’t mean you get to do whatever.
This is one instance where I wouldn’t have an issue with vigilante justice.
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If he paid for your Uber and you can remember where the location of dropoff and pickup was…you can involve the cops.
The cops aren’t gonna care what you were doing.
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Awwww 🥺…. wow! I’m so sorry you had to experience this. I can’t even imagine how you are feeling… 🙏🏾
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First of all, the comment, "You got to try and figure out what gets into people." ... wait, you're kidding, right?!
NO, we don't. We do not need put one single thought into accepting, validating, or understanding something that we do not deserve. What this man did to her is 100000000% NOT acceptable.
Why does SHE need to figure out what sets him off??!
I know I'm new here but I'm not new to this type of violence.
The consensus from these comments that, "I'm sorry that happened to you." *...and i take a minute to compose myself* .. this is par for the course in this business and somehow acceptable as deserving only an apology and not an action that comes from what should be the normal response of anger is appalling.
I am probably overstepping here but question, if this was me sharing this story, even though most of you don't know me, would you dare respond this same way? The fact of the matter is I am on this site the same as she the difference is, unbeknownst to you, I have been where she is, unfortunately too many times, with multiple men in totally normal life relationships and situations. This is not site or industry specific. I am here because this is easier and less problematic than dating but I pray for the next guy who thinks he can hurt, disrespect or treat those around me, including myself in the way she's been treated. She is a sweet soul who doesn't deserve this and the decent men in this community should do better. This is not acceptable.
OP: Love, PM me, I have resources I would be happy to utilize and favors I am owed if you would like to handle this, and him, in the way it should be.
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This is why I go so hard for ladies because WTF!!
When you Google safety tools for men it shows glasses, steel toe boots, gloves and all of the things to keep men from hurting themselves from themselves. When you Google women's safety tools you'll see whistles, pepper spray and all the things to keep women safe from men;
I am extremely sorry that you had to experience that! I don't even have the words like that's just not okay . If you're open to talking please let me know. Did the person have handle here?
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+10000000 @apple!!
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June - sadly I know what steel-toed boots feel like to the ribs.
I would be happy to set up a free self defense class for the ladies here. Those who are not local could participate via zoom. I know a few people who would gladly teach and share these tools with us.
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Apple Bottom...wrong choice of words....I shudda said: you wonder what gets into people...not you have to wonder...thanks for the admonishment.
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This is horrible, I'm so sorry.
You really have to figure out his handle so to warn ladies not to see him.
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Sorry u experienced this. If it was a member if the community he should be outed but it seems it's a random person with her contact
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Whats his link?
Sorry you had to endure that!
Thats horrible!
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This is terrifying Im sorry this happened to you
PM sent
Lets catch this monster
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This is not a “typical” man - this is a dangerous psychopath. We all know how hard it is for women to report assaults, but I really hope that the OP can find her way to getting to cops on this guy. Personally, I’d hope for chemical castration, but a permanent ankle bracelet would be a step in the right direction.
The story horrifies me.
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Nothing really to have to understand....this is a crime and nothing else to say about it. You didn't deserve what happened, but he needs to feel the consequences of his actions. Take Applebottom's offer to help. He needs to be stopped and it won't happen until someone comes forward.
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Do whatever you can to identify this POS and get the police involved. The law needs to come down on him HARD.
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Pretty bad this happend 😞
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Everyone, Wow thank you for letting me know I'm not alone in this. Even though I knew I wasn't in the wrong I forswore needed reassurance from my fellow peers here on hx. Due to the severity of the situation, I Will be taking legal action. If anyone has any tips for me on how I can bring this up to the authorities please let me know. It is not okay what happened at all, my neck still hurts, my hips still hurt. Everyday Im gradually feeling better but there forsure still feels like something is wrong. I don't like the feeling of being take advantage of, especially at 23, at ANY age really! Everynight I continue to pray for everyone else in their career working escort services and working any job . I believe that we all deserve to be treated with respect and also give respect to clients. When there is no respect from either side, there is no transaction needing to be made. I don't want to bring bad vibes whatsoever please do not think hx is all bad because honestly it is not. I've had 99.9% great experiences, just so had happened that night the evil was lurking around me . Im very sorry everyone and to myself for having to have brought this up here but like I said he need to be caught and held accountable ! I want us all to be safe. Im sorry if my words are a little scattered anyone feel free to pm me if you have questions or resources for me moving forward I want to share this Link for the ladies that think that if something like this happens to them they can't get help, Wrong, California law now protects us. Because of this quite frankly my life and several others working can be saved.
Thank you to Hx user @2ndBreakfast for shinning a light on this California Law
"If any ladies don't know. If a client gets violent with you (like in this situation) you can contact the police and you won't be charged with prostitution. California law protects you, links below"
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Baby Angie - Write down everything you can remember about the night. Every single detail. Nothing is too small. How he smelled, How he looked, where you met him, his build, any tattoos or scars, the type of clothing, was it a home or a hotel, the hotel would have a record of who checked in. Take photos of any bruises of injuries ASAP. Do you have any texts or messages from him. Texts sent to friends right after the incident?
Try to draw a picture of what you remember. I am going to PM you. DO this now and add to it as. you remember things.
Moving forward, find a friend of fellow HXer to share your location with when you go to outcalls. Your phone can also be used as a tracker to find out where exactly you met this guy or where he lived.
We all need a backup safety net and buddy system. I typically share my location with my roommate, but I've done that for years in everyday normal circumstances or when I go out drinking, traveling, etc so If anything happens he knows where to find me or I last was.
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The cops will not care about your activities. They simply won’t. They will focus on the crimes committed by this absolute piece of shit.
I honestly don’t wish violence on people as a rule but in this case I hope this guy gets a taste of his own medicine by someone else. I am so sorry this happened to you.
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Also - ladies if you are ever in this situation hurting or have injuries go to urgent care ASAP so everything is freshly documented. Even if
DON'T WASH ANYTHING you had on that night in case he left any body fluids e.g. sweat, semen, saliva. There may be DNA on that they could use if this goes further. Bag it all up so it's all together if you need to turn it in for evidence at any point.
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Can we get a buddy system going for ladies? Someone to know where you'll be as well as someone to check in with before and after meetings?
I have family members that always have my location as well as a trusted friend from here that I check in with when I'm meeting new people due to stalkers and a similar incident . That way God forbids that something happens to me at least my family will know where I am as well as the person on here will know what happened and who it happened with.
Its a reminder that we still have to look out for one another especially us ladies.
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A lot of good ideas shared here. This community has supported the victim and rallied behind her. The is one thing we all can do, not just providers is be prepared by any means possible to defend yourself. If you don’t carry weapons, a gun, knife, OC spray then keep handy what you do have, keys (if you have a car so old it still uses a key) to the throat or face works well, your own nails (they are displayed often on this site) scratch across the face & eyes, biting, chew the shit out of the assailant .
When you set up your location or go to a location look around and see what’s easily available for a weapon if you need it. Pens, framed table pics, utensils anything you can grab and swing or stab.
The bottom line is you don’t fight fair in this situation, your life depends on it. Absolutely this will not help much if the attack is sudden and overwhelming. The hard part will be to put you in a situation where this line of thinking for you is normal, getting use to it, like putting on your seat belt.
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I also am aware most of these reports never get back to most women. As the majority these days have bookers.
I can understand shielding your ladies from the reports, however please for the life of all ladies. ID and camera check ins upon arrival.
Hotels are becoming less of a thing these days. The smart bookers are always able to identify heinous crimes. Do they use it as a threat? I dont think so. It sets a precedent for safer encounters. One is more likely to follow rules and be on their way with zero issues once ID.
Perhaps the most successful business model we can all learn from is the Chinese and Koreans.
American bookers have become greedy and its showing up with increased violence daily that could have been avoided.
Before door entry.
Not all money is good money.
Plus we have an issue with counterfeit circling. Better not to take the risk over a fake hundo anyways.
We ladies are so valuable, and unappreciated in a dark world.
Hang in there girls 😔
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Sorry but to suggest the community failed you is bullshit. A single person committed this act. Not the fucking community. Condemn this piece of shit but don’t turn this into a bullshit condemnation of the community.
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So people here violently assault women daily?
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We dont see eye to eye on this one and thats ok.
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Yeah we don’t agree and it surely won’t help your business if you think this community has men who assault providers daily.
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If you were dropped off at his home from the uber, you have an exact location of the meet. We can always get a group of guys to pay this piece of shit a visit so he can remember that day for his rest of his life
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May I make an observation, and a suggestion?
When there is an incident which threatens the health and safety of anyone in the community, it needs to be brought to the attention of other in the FASTEST and MOST DIRECT manner with an effort to communicate critical details clearly and up front. This is for the purpose of aiding in the apprehension of the perp as well as protection of others. Unfortunately, this concept seems lost on too many of the ladies posting here.
For starters, there seems to be this aversion to actually mentioning the SUBJECT of the post in the title of header. When I look into the blog section and see a post with a title such as "it shouldn't have happened" or "I don't know what to do", why would I be tempted to give it any more priority or concern than any other post?
Likewise, a long-winded narrative where half it is describing how the person FELT as opposed to useful details, ESPECIALLY one where the writer doesn't seem to understand how to group thoughts and write posts with sensible paragraph breaks, is a huge disincentive to reading the entire post. If there is an incident of some type, I want to be able to identify the main points to see if I can do anything to assist or offer suggestions.
I would like to suggest that HX establish some type of "Neighborhood Watch" page, specifically formatted to enable reporting of such issues in a useful manner. Based on what I have seen of this site, I don't believe such is going to happen, so here's where I'm going: Has anyone here ever listed to your local police dispatch channel, or even seen classic TV shows/movies (Dragnet, Adam-12) where police dispatches are included in the script? Note the format and order of the broadcasts - units to be notified, type of incident, location suspect info, contact info, incident number (so they can follow up on details later) - SHORT, BRIEF and TO THE POINT, to notify the officers and get them headed in the right direction. If it's a critical incident in progress, there will be one or more "additional info" broadcasts, but those will follow AFTERWARDS. My proposed approach for this is as follows:
(1) Blog titles suggesting possible health and safety alert issues should start with the phrase "SAFETY ALERT" or something similar, and this phrase should be used SOLELY for such purposes - not stuff like flakes or no-shows or guys/gals with poor grooming/hygeine (unless one suspects an STD). The format should be along the lines of "SAFETY ALERT"- incident type - location - date. Example as follows: "SAFETY ALERT - Robbery, Executive Suites in Santa Ana - Sunday April 19th." Critical info only to get reader attention.
(2) The post body should be structured similarly, but here you can go into more details:
* INCIDENT TYPE - One paragraph description of what happened. If you can't describe all of it in 3 o4 sentence, list detail further down in the report.
* LOCATION - Location type, address, city, state, additional location info as needed.
* SUSPECT - Description - race, sex, appx height & weight, hairstyle, clothing description. Speech patterns or accents, particular unusual attributes. Suspect MO (modus operandi) can be noted as well. Direction of travel or of vehicle used to leave scene, if known.
* DATE AND TIME - Calendar date and time, to the best of one's knowledge, even if it's an aproximation. "Between 9 and 10 PM" is STILL better than nothing at all.
* OTHER RELEVANT INFO - Location busy? Weather and lighting? Whatever else might be relevant.
(3) If people see the need to editorialize, vent, or solicit sympathy, etc. this narrative should be AFTER the relevant info has been posted, in a follow-up post. Don't clutter the original post with such stuff, it's not relevant to the alert.
Hope that helps.
GT
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I’m sorry that happened to you. Some men think because they provide funds they are in control and can do whatever they want.
Can you do a reverse number lookup if he messaged you? Often times cell numbers can have a history of the owners.
This might be a suggestion for ladies that provide outcalls: take pictures of the location, especially the address if it’s a residential. Just in case. This hobby can be risky and the rush of meeting up for a good time is what puts us at ease.
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When you get to an unfamiliar place or house go to the bathroom and use Google or apple maps to take a screenshot of where you are on the maps. Sometimes you may not know the address but the app will
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I agree Rug...the community is not to blame for this or any other incident of this nature...it is the one scumbag who perpetrated the act.
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Yeah so I just don’t get why Sonya is on her damned soapbox about something so clearly untrue.
Especially if she is already finding it difficult to schedule clients now. If the clients feel like you characterize them as predators who the fuck wants to see you?
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OP, your experience was horrific and I am sorry this happened to you, my heart goes out to you.
AppleBottom said write everything down. Having been involved in numerous legal issue (not criminal) that is great advice, You will be glad you did later. It is easy to think you will remember all the details of what happened but over time the notes will help, No detail is insignificant so document it all.
If you want to anonymously speak to a professionally trained counselor you can call or text 988. See the link below. The help line is confidential and It is not solely for people feeling suicidal but for any type of crisis, like the type you are dealing with. I hope this helps.
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I don't think that she's saying that every man on here violently assaults women but it does happen here and off of the site a lot and most women won't report it because of what we do and don't want to get in trouble or they're just afraid. You see often where women say "I didn't want a red rating back so I didn't rate the bad person" .
Ladies see multiple strangers day which does increase the probability of harm. Most men see women and worry if their pics are fake or if the service is accurate. Most women see men and worry if he's going to flip and bash our heads in or worse.
I don't think the site is an issue but I can say that the site has changed over the years with a lot of bad apples and fake accounts taking over but as I explained to someone it's not the sites fault and more so just a reflection of how the world is today . Even on social media you see so many fake accounts spreading hate because they know that they can hide and never be caught.
You can understand what she's trying to say without taking it personally or at least try to understand from this side
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Sorry those 3 links got bunched up but you get the idea
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I am not taking it personally. Just looking at the context with which Sonya makes her comments and it’s just…if this site sucks so badly then get off it. Really.
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I'm not sure where you got that from any of her comments above but I've already established the fact that your issue with her is higher than this topic and I'll exit myself from that
Be safe out there ladies. On and off of the site
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I love how two of Sonya’s comments got magically deleted when she said “this happens in this community daily,” and now it’s gone.
Hilarious how this site is so fucked with and so many people rave about the safety.
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In the words of a wise man
"…if this site sucks so badly then get off it. Really."
Lol let's just let it go love. There is a real issue going on and bickering is going to keep OP from wanting to update the info
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Lots of advice has been given as to how to do the forensics and figure out who he is.
Shouldn’t be hard to find him.
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To OP I hope u went through and reported this. Plz let us know the progress
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@RugMuncher When did I ever say the community failed me? Everyone has done everything but that . If you care enough to read my second comment I said hx isn't bad whatsoever . Im not gonna sit here and repeat myself just because you don't understand in your head that I made this post to make sure the girls know that there is some big guy rolling around taking advantage . I contemplated for 4 days before making the post because like you said "not good for business' but if I was another girl on the site I would absolutely appreciate a victim coming forward letting us know what happened. Its not about who's wrong who's right its about the safety frfr I've gotten so many messages from the girls feeling the same way an thankful I came forward bc if I didn't then who will? He could get away with it again.
Aside from the negativity I hope everyone has an amazing week and we can move forward from this ...
I think us girls should make a group chat via numbers and we can ask eachother questions , advice, help , job offers, make each other aware of any "incidents", invite each other to places, or even ask which pics we should post here etc...... I would love to be able to trust one of the fellow girlies with my location when working or even a few and vise versa so . The girls know what I'm trying to say . Girls if you think it would be a good idea pm me your number so I could gather numbers to make groupchat in the following upcoming days
Its all of our first time living, & I'm more than looking forward to meeting more of you<3
- your 23 y/o girly just trying to do what's right
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@June.Moon Yesss a buddy system would not only be so cute but super useful, I'm thinking groupchat via phone numbers since that would be the fastest alert someone could get. We can share locations with whoever we feel connected to in the groupchat (meee ofc), share job ideas, invite eachother places, watch over eachother, ask questions , share pics, advice, and alert eachother about anything ...
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@Sonya7 Yea see most stuff that have s goes unreported, that's not good at all. Thank you for understanding what I was trying to do . Which was not accuse an entire community but bring awareness about a specific somebody that can potentially strike again. Ty for the advice chula.
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1. I'm sorry this happened to you.
2. You didn't mention his profile name, so this means he didn't contact you through HX? He just called you on his phone & he doesn't have a HX profile?
3. If so, this is why we have a networking system in the 1st place, to avoid this kind of thing from happening.
4. Good luck in prosecuting this SOB.
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I'm in deep sorrow that anything like this has happened, especially to you sweet Angie
I'm surmising that this was not an Hx client, as the handle has not been mentioned nor has a negative rating been issued to anyone in your network.
If he is an Hx client, please expose his handle so that the handle can be painted red to make others aware of his violent actions and that he's to be avoided.
Also, please report this piece of shit to the authorities. Whoever this man is, he needs to be removed from society and caged like the animal that he is.
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My heart goes out to you mama and I pray God covers you in His safety and protection. If you can, please post his number and this same review on Mr.Number so other girls can be aware. I am so happy you are safe. Take a break, breathe, and take care of yourself so you can recover from the trauma you just endured. I am sending so much love and healing to you sweet pea.
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