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and you know for an absolute fact it was due to the rally.........
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Here is a health official who says it is likely...
But no health official has the balls to say whether any of the protests, riots, lootings, and large gatherings in the streets created any spike...
Once again...double fucking standard.....
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This is clearly bullshit since 500 people weren't there
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they have a record of the people that went
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- “Dr. Bruce Dart, Executive Director of the Tulsa Health Department, said in a press conference on Wednesday there are high numbers being reported this week, with nearly 500 new cases in two days and trends are showing that those numbers will increase.
‘Up until the rally there was a steady decline of 20% decline in reported COVID-19 cases. We had numerous public events, including protests, leading up to the President‘s rally. Despite the earlier crowds Tulsa and neighboring communities were keeping the numbers moving in a positive direction before the visit. We don’t know who had it, we don’t know who went home with it, as people from out of state came to the event making contact tracing impossible. All of these factors came into play, and we are just connecting the dots. The number of cases has just keeps rising since.’ “
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- “ All of Trump's campaign staffers who attended his rally went into quarantine, however, after interacting with several colleagues who later tested positive for the virus. Multiple Secret Service officers were also instructed to self-quarantine after two of their colleagues who were on site for the rally tested positive.”
What’s that, NoSoFast?
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communist protested out side the event also. I guess the wuflu / kungflu only targets Republicans!
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Commies would have been sick before the event....
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There is contact traceability.
We will be able to tell if it were people at the rally.
You guys are soooo ready to blame Trump. LOL. It’s the rally he held in Los Angeles and other parts of California I am worried about.
The Gov. said we may have to go back to shelter in place rules.
What? Trump didn’t have any rallies in CA?.... oh... never mind.
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Any of those not rally attendees but protesters? Asking for a friend.
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Heman Caine attended the rally he tested positive.
8 secret services agents and staff that attended the rally tested positive.
Link below to Fox News reporter that covered the rally tested positive.
Thats 10 people that attended the rally that recently tested positive.
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I included a link to a podcast produced by The New York Times about insights on the current state of the pandemic.
They indicated that the protests likely didn't spread the virus because it was held outdoors and many cities that had major protests (like NYC) didn't see a large spike. Of course, some protestors must have infected others if they weren't wearing masks and were shouting around others without masks, but it wasn't likely a major contributor to the current rise in infections.
Additionally, there were protests in nearly every major city around the world (especially in Europe, including England, France, and Germany) and those cities didn't see spikes in infection rates like we have experienced in the U.S.
So the likelihood is that the current spike in the U.S. was caused by opening up too quickly with little to no social distancing in bars and other social gatherings.
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Well people can protest and go to rally’s. Both sides have contributed to the spikes.
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Any fool but Trump knows to make people wear masks.
Most of the protestors were wearing masks.
Trump supporters follow Trump and don't wear masks on purpose.
Its a MAGA thing and its just plain dumb as hell!
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Barbara Ferrer, the Los Angeles County director of public health, said that the protests have been contributing to the rise of cases in LA county. I don't know if they've contributed a whole lot, but a contribution has been noticeable.
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When you saw 20,000 people walking down Hollywood Blvd you know something bad might happen.
Most of the protestors seem to be wearing masks. Many had them around their chins. They were outdoors but yelling and walking close together for miles. That wasn't the best idea.
Going to an indoor area for a rally with 6,200 other fools and 90% of them
not wearing any masks on purpose makes no sense at all.
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Here is the likely difference between protestors and rally goers:
For the 12-18 hours of each day that they weren't marching, protestors were probably wearing masks and properly maintaining distances.
In the days and weeks leading up to Trump's rally, attendees were probably NOT wearing masks and attending church services and gathering in groups.
Two very different types of behaviors which would lead to two significantly different outcomes.
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Honestly, why do you care about it? They are just Trump supporters. If they did not learn anything after four month of misery, economic downturn, 3 million infection, 130,000 death in the US, they have only themselves to blame.
Their support of Mr Bone Spurs became a religion, backed by blind backing by Evangelicals on him.
No reasoning will work any more, they are 100% emotion when it comes to Mr Spurs.
What we should be afraid is shortage of tests and PPE. Thanks to "do nothing" Mr Bone Spurs (AKA "Agent Orange" -watch Spike Lee, "Da 5 Bloods"), we are still in the same situation as four months ago.
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Don't forget we can not even trust CDC anymore, because Dr Robert Redfield (aka "Dr Death") is another Evangelical, another henchman for Mr Orange Agent.
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“protestors were probably wearing masks and properly maintaining distances.”
Did you watch any of the coverage of the protests? They were out together for hour upon hour... they were not practicing social distancing and there were A LOT of people not wearing masks.
Why can’t you just admit BOTH behaviors were dumb?
We have big spikes for 2 reasons. People are stupid. People are selfish. They go to rallies. They go to protests. They go to gatherings of family and friends. They choose to not wear masks and they choose to avoid social distancing rules.
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"Why can’t you just admit BOTH behaviors were dumb?"
90% of Mr Agent Orange did not wear masks.
80% of protesters were wearing masks.
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90% of Mr Agent Orange did not wear masks.
80% of protesters were wearing masks.
Nice Thresher. You pulled those numbers out of your ass. My question is... how did you get them past your head? You must have one huge, gaping butthole.
BTW... 88.4% of statistics are made up.
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"nothing to do with Trump" is a wrong statement
Protesters were against abuse of powers by Police, and by Trump administration.
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Thrashy you know that was dumb right?
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By the way, this morning, the Supreme court proved that any president is not "above the law". It is a great news, we still have a sound democracy, a great victory for the Supreme Court.
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7-2. So... it looks like we will get to,see,what Mr. Trump wanted to keep under wraps.
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"7-2. So... it looks like we will get to,see,what Mr. Trump wanted to keep under wraps"
There are two decisions, as far as I understood at this point, one is that NYS can pursue a possible criminal case (Trump Finance), the other is that congress did not have enough reasons to obtain his financial record (but it is still possible if Congress has enough reasoning to do so).
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So... it also means those who were looking forward to seeing Trump’s tax returns before the election are going to be disappointed.
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"So... it also means those who were looking forward to seeing Trump’s tax returns before the election are going to be disappointed"
that is correct.
Congress will not be able to subpoena Mr Agent Orange's tax record before November election for sure, it will take time... to do so.
On the other hand, NYS can subpoena his tax records, but it will be not be disclosed to public under grand jury secrecy.
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I'm laughing at Grand Jury Secrecy especially involving these possible cases. By the time case comes to trial there will be so much out there everyone will have made up their minds.
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"By the time case comes to trial there will be so much out there everyone will have made up their minds"
That is most likely the case looking back three and half years of what happened. But this is a possible criminal case, the rules should be followed (I hope  )
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Yes, we have so many people violating law by leaking confidential information.....
The list is long if Barr ever wanted to prosecute everyone who leaked.....
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"he list is long if Barr ever wanted to prosecute everyone who leaked....."
I am not an expert on this, but it seems that his tax records can be publicly displayed once Manhattan DA filed criminal charges against current or former employees of the Trump organization.
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NO, it is part of a Grand Jury inquiry.
Technically records of a Grand Jury are confidential and sealed until such time as an indictment is recommended and the records are turned over to the DA for prosecution.
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OK I understood it.
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if warranted...have no problem with appropriate records going to a grand jury type setting
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So do we get to see Biden's tax returns along with his certification of mental accuity and Tara Reade's records?
The shit in Trumps pants is Joe Biden
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The rally was fun
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Text me for footage and pixs if u wanna c what really happen at Tulsa rally. CUZ I WAS there
Had to get a real world perspective myself
Post 2 weeks..
No
Covid
I only got close to like 20 ppl...
Walking next to the same ppl sitting next to the same ppl
Etc
Not 10000sss
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"Text me for footage and pixs if u wanna c what really happen at Tulsa rally. CUZ I WAS there"
what was the percentage for the participants of not wearing masks?
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The judge could/and probably would seal/gag both sides and threaten hell to pay concerning leaked information leading up to the trial. As Long as Trump is president, I am guessing he will be able to keep pushing the trial date back.
If he loses..... I’m guessing the show starts late spring, early summer.
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yap, most likely.
However it goes, I am very glad to hear that the Supreme court denied any sitting president is above the law. That is what really mattered to me. The rest is up to DA.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=tulsa+covid+numbers
Looking at the actual numbers instead of whats provided by the minitrue; the bowshock is on the 17/18 of june putting the infection events at 3rd or the 4th using the 2 week incubation model.
the timing of the most recent surge(7/8) puts the events at 24th about half a week out of step with the rally.
if it was from his rally then it would be the 4th or the 5th.... the recent surge is community transmission from the those infected on the 3rd/4th of june that have spread the disease far and wide.
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GinaGalaxy, are u using Full Body Condoms yet???
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Trump's actual taxes won't get released but people will get a good idea what in them by what Cyrus Vance jr does.
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There are countless “spikes” across the country... but the relatively small one in Oklahoma is Trump’s fault.
That is excellent logic and reasonable deduction.
NOT!
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It is possible that Trump is associated with Russian Oligarch. No banks in the US wanted to borrow any money to Trump.
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