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I thought it was hilarious that not one single person wrote a blog about the shooter after his identity & background was revealed. Republican parents who taught him to shoot guns early on. What do you expect? Repugs always say the answer to gun violence is more guns, right? Well, Charlie got what he asked for.
We continue to see the doubIe standard from that hateful party: Nothing said in sympathy for the Minnesota elected Democrat official & her husband who were assassinated a couple of months ago but when one of theirs falls, it's all calamity & finger pointing & quick assumptions that the murderer must've been a leftist. I keep saying, 92% of all violent political crimes are committed by Republicans. .
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WTF are you guys even talking about that libtard faggot literally lived with a purple haired tranny. It doesnt get more liberal than that
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Whoa
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They’re just following lock step the orange Epstein accomplice.
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Just because he wants to hide anll the details about Epstein doesn’t mean he’s got something to hide.
Does it?
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*all
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28 ladies said he assaulted them. Kind of sounds like his modus operandi
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It's another unfortunate death at another unfortunate school shooting. Prove me wrong.
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This country isn’t what it used to be. Schools didn’t used to be such dangerous places.
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^@juicybl921 – I'm wondering the same thing, though I wouldn’t use the wording you did.
It’s becoming clear that he had strong ties to the LGBTQ community, which makes sense given that it was important to him, especially considering he was in a relationship with a man who wanted to transition to a woman. Based on general base rate reasoning, it seems likely he leaned left rather than right. While he had not officially voted or declared a political affiliation, if the 80/20 rule applies, it is unlikely he identified as a conservative.
Let’s be clear: how he chose to live his personal life was entirely his decision. However, it is starting to feel like he may have been political motivations involved. That said, as we speculate today, we have to acknowledge that none of us knows the full truth, and what we believe now will change tomorrow.
What we all should agree on is this: taking the life of someone who simply wanted to speak and express his love for God, family, and country is indefensible. It is clear that the person who did this was a monster.
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Sadly it dates back to 1891 in the US.
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The UT tower shooting was in 1966 lasted 96 minutes left 17 dead and 30 wounded. If sandy Hook did not wake up this country nothing will.
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It woke up Alex Jones.
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Forgive my ignorance. I know almost nothing about Charlie Kirk because he was uninteresting to me while he was alive. Since a lot of you seem to know a lot about him, did he really believe gun deaths are an acceptable price to pay for second amendment freedoms?
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On March 27, 2023, a mass shooting occurred at The Covenant School.
April 5, 2023, Kirk “I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."
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I just returned from a lovely evening at a rooftop event in the apparantly liberal Hellscape that is Hollywood. Call me Nero, but chatting up lovely young women while having free food and drink is not for everyone, but since... you know, the free food and drink talking... isn't this just influencer on influencer violence. It has to stop. I know the LBGTQ folks drive some people to violence, but so does pickelball and casual racism. Stop trying to analyse shit you know nothing about. A trans woman gave me a cigarette and listened to my bullshit for 4 minutes - as I said, free drinks - but I also listened to her bullshit. It was fine, Situation normal. I didn't feel any strange sex urges, or rising violence in my brainstem. Just 2 people living and talking through normal shit.
I've returned to my lair now.
Just microwaved a couple of Whitecastles and no, the mere fact of a tiny frozen hamburger named "White Castle" doesn't make me privledge OR replaced.
So good, time for round 2. 40 seconds per side, rest for 1 minute. add Heinz ketchup and Heinz Yellow Mustard.
For a guy as well intentioned and godly as he procliamed, he had a lot of nasty things to say about people he didn't know. That's deeply uncool in my religion, negative Karma points. I hope he makes it through whatever gate he believed in.
Inshallah.
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Easy Joe, take it form an oldtimer, I made a little poster and stuck it on the back window of my truck when Reagan shuffleld off this mortal coil. It said, Ronnie, welcome to hell.
I pulled off the 101 at Kanan Dume and somebody threw a full slurpee at my ride.
Let this shit roll off brother. Tomorrows another day.
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Joe, must be nice to be a nut job. The quote you and many others have referenced is cherry picked without the full context of what is being said. He first prefaces using motor vehicles as a comparison. Even though there are 40,000+ motor vehicle deaths each year, we still justify the use of motor vehicles as a method of transportation and convenience. Now, we also have 40,000+ gun deaths each year. Being able to utilize guns for self defense and the insurance against a tyrannical government, the deaths are a trade off. It’s easy for someone like you to not give a shit about the motor vehicle deaths while hyper focusing on gun deaths. Continue loving to be unhinged.
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If you carried a firearm and unfortunately had to end someone who wanted to cause great harm, that loss of life is worth having 2A. That is the acceptable losses.
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So guns should be regulated like cars.
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MAGA on MAGA violence. Simp shhhhitt.
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Car ownership is, basically, completely unregulated.
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Some folks believe in the 1st Amendment some don't.
The First Amendment protects five fundamental rights from government interference: freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and the right to petition the government.
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Some people believe it means that they can say anything they want to anybody else at any time and at any volume.
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Those that know me. Believe I am many fries short of a happy meal. I do not ride on the short bus.
So let me see if the following is correct.
If you are a blue team supporter and do not believe in the 2nd Amendment you have 1st Amendment rights.
If you are a red team supporter and do believe in the 2nd Amendment you have zero 1st Amendment rights.
My take on some of the comments above.
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Second Amendment quote.
" A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".
Interesting how advocates of unregulated gun ownership ignore the first part of the sentence "A well regulated Militia" and base their rationale on the second part of the sentence. Guns are owned by individuals across this country, not well regulated militias, like the Second Amendment clearly states.
Meanwhile the scourge of gun violence in this country far, far exceeds countries that have very strict controls on gun ownership including to name a few..Australia, United Kingdom, Norway, France, Canada, and Japan. But in this country the love affair with guns, including assault type rifles, goes unchecked...and so do the deaths of innocent victims.
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And about Charlie Kirk, I did a little research since I didn't know him very well. I guess he had some charisma but then there is this. I was responding to a hard core "Christian" person who was distraught over his death.
During a Turning Point conference in Dec 2023, Charlie Kirk called the Civil Rights Act of 1964 “ a huge mistake”. Oh really…this landmark law prohibits discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in public accommodations, employment and federally funded programs. Im pretty sure Jesus would have supported this legislation. White supremacists not so much. What else..oh yeah…he stated that the right to bear arms was worth the yearly cost of some gun deaths…ironic that he got killed by a gun. Oh and then there is his statement about empathy…” I can’t stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up, new age term - it does a lot of damage”. How Jesus of him. Well I guess I will dismiss any empathetic feelings I would have for his family. Christian hypocrisy is at an all time high.
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Sly69
Got it
If you are a red team supporter and do believe in the 2nd Amendment you have zero 1st Amendment rights.
So the United States Supreme Court cannot interpret The Constitution on your level.
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@butthead. The Supreme Court is led by a majority of deeply conservative judges, placed there by conservative Presidents and Senate. The interpretation of the Constitution is certainly subject to the political leanings of the judges appointed. This is the same group that reversed Roe vs Wade which had given women the right to an abortion. So yeah, its political.
At the end of the day I think it is fair to look objectively at the consequences of Supreme Court (as well as legislative) decisions, regardless of political leanings. Do I think unregulated access to guns of all types is good policy or not? Given the mass shootings in this country, the easy access to guns , the number of deaths due to gun violence and the evidence that other civilized countries have far less deaths per capita then the US tells me we need to do things differently. Keeping a handgun in your home for protection is one thing and most people would support that right. But access to high powered rifles and rapid fire assault weapons, like the kind used all to frequently in this country to commit mass murders is just bad policy in my opinion.
And this has nothing to do with First Amendment rights.
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So many of the comments are not saying that Kirk deserved being assassinated?
Obviously it is very hard for me to understand what was written.
I guess I just took it the wrong way.
Under no circumstances should anyone be assassinated for their statements.
The First Amendment should pertain to all citizens of the United States of America.
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There is no argument that there is no place for political violence in this country lest we become like Mexico or other third world countries where political violence is commonplace. It also undermines the foundation of our democracy when the tools of government power is used vindictively to attack political enemies, media critics or others who speak out against entrenched power.
A famous saying..."Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
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"Under no circumstances should anyone be assassinated for their statements."
This is the only correct statement.
And to those who claim the shooter was in a relationship with a tranny, please stop being so dumb and gullible. Any time the right is confronted by their inherit violence, which is constantly pushed by Far Right groups, they make up a completely implausible excuse to make them feel better about themselves.
So you're saying a 22-year-old Mormon, from a gun-loving conservative Mormon family that is entirely MAGA, was dating a tranny in Utah? How dumb do you have to be to believe this excuse?
The Far Right is much more violent than any other group right now in this country. Come to terms with that fact.
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When the founding fathers created the amendment
Guns were shot , reload like 2 minutes , shoot again ,
Not get an AK47 shoot 100 shots in one minute ,
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@fallenangel.. Exactly!
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I'm not sure why the suspect's romantic situation is being brought up.
Let's not forget the spike in grindr activity at RNC's.
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Fallen angels - true, that was the rate of fire then. And it was certainly felt that 'the people' should be able to counter (the British army, at the time) but tyrannical government in general, force with force.
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That shot kinda crzy though right? even at 200 yards?
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On Sept 9th the NYT, LA TIMES and Amazon Books reported his death. When it happened on the 10th.
What did they know before hand ?
Why isn't the FBI investigating that ? Maybe they are now.
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Are we gonna disarm ourselves like England and Australia because a lunatic with a gun decides to kill people with a gun?The girl in NC was killed with a folding pocket knife. The motel manager in Texas was beheaded with a machete. It’s not the tool, it’s the user.
I saw a post on IG which is true. “Abel was killed with a stone. Goliath was also killed with a stone”Can someone tell me the moral of that post?🤔
Listen, Charlie was killed because he had opinions that some could not reason with. Fragile minds shatter when computing reason. It’s OK to not agree on ideas. It’s not OK to kill someone because they don’t agree with you.
The alleged assassin was left leaning like all the other perpetrators of political violence. Let’s start with Abraham Lincoln’s assassin, John Wilkes Booth.
The Democratic Party is a party of violence and intolerance. Prove me wrong.
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Apparently he was registered as an Independent. Although a different word was used.
So this whole left, right is a wash. Plus no one likes a fence walker. Choose a side mentality or be done away with by both sides.
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@fallenangel @sly69 Back when the 2A was written, EVERYBODY that owned a gun had “military grade” weapons, muskets/muzzle loaders. Some even owned CANNONS.
The second amendment was written about fighting a tyrannical government. Applying your logic, if the citizenry was only allowed to have muskets to fight a tyrannical government with full auto weapons, how would we fair?
@sly69 Cleary you’re no constitutional scholar and neither am I. Your comment on “well regulated militia “ meant a well trained militia, per many constitutional scholars.
Stop twisting shit. Just because the shooter came from a “conservative” family doesn’t mean anything.
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There is no evidence at all that the shooter was in a relationship with a trans person. It’s just a deflection to cover for the fact that the shooter was an even more extreme right wing fanatic who shot a guy espousing that in order to protect the second amendment son lives will be lost.
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^Theres no evidence that the shooter was a right winged extremist. You can use, “He comes from a conservative family”. If that’s your argument, I’ll use, “He was shacked up with a tranny”. Same illogical logic as yours.
Next?
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US Marines Annual Qualification for a rifle in a prone position shooting at a stationary target is 500 yards. That is true for every Marine. That is more than 2.5X the distance this shooter was positioned at. 150 yards is a chip shot for a well trained rifleman. This shooter had shot his entire life. I doubt it was a difficult shot for him.
My guess with where the shot hit and the distance that he wasn’t aiming for the T-box but rather Kirk’s mouth.
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I have a few reactions to the statements above.
So 40,000 accidental automobile deaths are equivalent of 40,000 murders a year? That seems like a really weird comparison me. We spend a lot of time and effort regulating manufacture and operation of cars to prevent accidental automobile deaths. You know, things like seat belts, airbags and speed limits.
Are there any countries that avoid tyranny without allowing any nut job to buy a gun?
When Charlie Kirk talked about gun deaths being acceptable was he talking about cops shooting criminals? I can’t think of any examples of everyday citizens ending people who want to do great harm outside of the movies but maybe I’m just uninformed.
Sorry, but the weapon matters. Far more people are killed by guns than knives because guns make it so easy to kill from a distance.
Who said the reds don’t have first amendment rights? If they did say that wouldn’t that statement also fall under the first amendment?
How can somebody know the motivations of a murderer who is not talking?
I admit I’m struggling to understand the logic of these ideologies. Can someone make sense of them for me?
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I find myself after reading this blog and others related to this a profound sense of sympathy for the Kirk family. I remember quite vividly my father placing his hand on my brother’s casket saying, “fathers don’t bury their sons.” Situations like these just bring that back to me. Kirk was a son, his parents still alive, a father and a husband. I can only relate in a very small way the amount of loss they are suffering.
It hakes no difference what weapon was used(which apparently was a modified WW2 German bolt action rifle to 30-06)a AK-47 or a high powered nerf gun. The 2nd Amendment had nothing to do with this.
This was simply an act of silencing someone who views are different from others.
We need to change the the old school playground adage
“sticks and stones may break my bones but words will definitely kill me.”
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How do you know “this was simply an act of silencing someone who views are different from others.”
That sounds like an assumption you have made out of ignorance and preconceived notions.
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I suppose I could be wrong. Maybe a lot of you know what exactly the killer was thinking when he pulled the trigger.
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@scranton A death is a death, accidental or not. Your logic is flawed. Check the FBI crime stats. I believe knife/sharp object is above or damn near close to firearm death/killing.
This blog was titled “Charlie Kirk”.
Charlie Kirk like anyone else with an opposing view/opinion/belief should not be killed for it. No matter the side.
Live and let live. Agree to disagree.
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RIP CHARLIE. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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