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Looks like Hx’rs want Black Friday deals? Lol
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Why is this an issue? Can’t you just say NO?
If you’re upset, it means you most likely went for the deal, at least once.
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So do level 3 and 4 dudes do this? Or is it just level 5?
No is a powerful word.
From my experience, at least 50% of the guys here will seek a lower donation from girls. I would bet less than 25%.of those are level 5. Maybe closer to 10%.
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The word Special has lost 95% of its meaning.
I don't want to step on anyone's emotional toes of self worth, So I don't ask.
Being a regular I expected a bit of break when inflation took over. I just decided to walk with one, I liked her a lot, but business has a higher priority. There is to many here to make a fuss over the one.
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I have a couple comments and these are not directed to anybody. Well I guess they're directed to people in this club but my thought is that inflation is affecting both sides sides. Several years ago I offered a special on Black Friday on our 1 hour dates however every client on that Friday decided to do the longer dates and I thought some people would choose to do one hour dates at a reduced rate but no one did and we had lots of clients on that particular Black Friday.
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I hate that i've heard several times special has no meaning around here anymore. When I offer specials, it def noticeably diff from the usual. Its too bad there isnt a way differentiate fake outs and real deals.
But as far as Lev 5 goes asking for DC, bc of level or just anyone asking for DC i say this. I got started on here bc i was desperate to stay in CA near my child. I am extremely grateful for the support i get from HX to make it possible for me to spend time with my boy. Time is money, but money is time with my kid, that's priceless.
So try to keep perspective and evaluate your purpose here (ladies). You shouldnt be confused why the guys are here. I say NO if needed (though i try not too ahah). Im never gonna be mad at anyone who offers me donations. Lev 5 has spent alot to get there, its understandable they may ask a 0 for a deal. 0 can be a risky situation.
I dont think this is the issue to press. There are plenty of predatory advantage seeking situations too arise unfortunately and high level is not immune from that. A clear upfront offer, in the open doesnt fall into that.
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I’ve had all levels do this , and when I very first started on hx I had a lot of guys messaging me telling me how I should run my business and how I should post and what I should post or offer and If I didn’t I wouldn’t be successful, I get there’s seasoned hobbyists and want to give their advice and input but it’s always up to you to run your business how you want and stand professionally firm with what you do and what you offer, if you’re willing to meet in the middle or compromise that’s your prerogative , but a firm polite no is all you need to do and move on , but I definitely understand where you’re coming from
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Well put. Damn good advice
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Now, I'm not going to count this as a business, at least not in the sense of what it means in todays world.
You have a service offering and a belief of what that offering is worth to you. It might be lower or higher than what your service offering has demand for.
As a newer lady, having a rating from a Level 5 will give you near instant recognition that some aspects of your service offering were as the Level 5 expected to some degree.
If you use fake pics of a 100lb lady, but your pushing 250, you probably won't get a good rating from a Level 5.
A Leve5 rating is an endorsement, with so many ladies available to endorse, the Level 5 might want something back in consideration for what this will do for your reputation.
Hopefully Level 5's aren't asking for freebies or lowballing sub $100.
A Level 5 rating will result in a quick rating level increase, if not immediate. Going from a Level 0 to a Level 1 will definitely increase demand for your service offering.
That's how I see it. Is seeing a Level 5 for a lower rate than you would usually consider something that you can tolerate, only you can make that decision.
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And what Kitty doesn't seem to understand, is that Level 3, 4 and 5 kind of guys hobby a lot more than Level 0,1 and 2 kind of guys, so they (3,4 & 5) are filling the marketplace with more cash out there to the ladies on a much more frequent level, thus they are deserving of a bit of a price break - if the lady is agreeable to it.
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It’s called a loss leader. Every business does it to some extent or another. Get a discount on a razor set? Guess what, you pay full pop retail for the blades. Gillette puts the razors out at a discount knowing you’ll be hooked into their business from that point forward. Verizon sells phones at a discount knowing they’ll make it up over the life of the contract. Bars offer ladies nights to get ladies into the club to attract the guys who will buy those ladies their drinks. Ladies NEVER complain when it works out to their favor.
Loss leader: A loss leader is a product or service sold below cost to attract customers and increase sales of more profitable items. The goal is that customers will buy other products while they're in the store or become repeat customers.
Offering something to someone at a discount in order to gain something else of value is normal business practice. If you don’t want to do that, fine. But don’t come asking in a month why you’re still a Level 0.
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Guys below level 4, don’t you hate it when a level 0 tries to take shortcuts and offer network specials for level 4/5 it seems they use it to gain an advantage over other beginner girls I noticed when I started a new account I was a low level and never got any network deals but I knew from before they were price discriminating
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In this 'business' it is way more personal than other 'retail' endeavors. You've got to factor in each providers view of themselves - which is impossible. Factor in the impersonal nature of text (no tone, body language, etc ) and shut can hit the fan quickly. There have been only a few times when I could not get the other person to understand what I was trying to say to them.
Keep it short, include a clear point and be over-polite.
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Sweetasssuga said it best: A "Lev 5 has spent alot to get there." Most women seem to have no idea how much we spend on them. I could've bought a Lambo easy with the money I've spent on women...and I'm only level 4. Most guys have to set limits; otherwise we'd never get to level 4 or 5 and end up in the poor house. A woman can always say no.
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What I’m saying is to try and say you had a beary nice evening with someone for less than 275 is a lie lol if so you need to go to the dr asappppp I been on this site a long time I know what things go for and that’s not it
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If I ask a lady for information about services and donations and receive an amount that is beyond what I am willing to pay, I cordially share that her donation is more than I typically pay but I thank her for taking the time to provide such information to me and I move on.
I have had some ladies come back with an offer that is lower than her original amount and have had ladies thank me for getting back to them.
Everyone needs to have a comfort level and if you feel willing to negotiate, that is totally up to you.
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I agree but to lie and say I should ask around like umm sir I been here awhile and I have recent canned messages from other ladies so unless he’s with level 0s with no value then he was definitely lying lol
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Some of us have been here since the beginning, and seen rates tripple over time. It's hard for us old timers to adjust. Humaniplex isn't the same.
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The same way you ladies are trying to get the most amount of money out of the men here is the same way the guys are trying to get it for the least amount of money.
He has every right to low ball you just like you have every right to ask for the most amount of money you can.
Too many men on here have allowed you women to think that is only okay for you to ask for the most money you want to sell for while the men can't ask for the least amount of money they want to get it for.
Just like it's okay for you women to price gouge it is equally okay for the men to low ball you. Everybody is free to ask for what they want not just these women.
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What the big deal? Its an option for some girls, it works both ways. If a price, service, or exchange are not to ones par or perceived value, just move on.
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<——— cheap level 2
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lol. This level thing is kind of ridiculous. I don’t look at levels at all and don’t know any women that really look at me and say you’re a level two so I’m not gonna see you. If you have a current network and no bad blemishes on the blogs and I have a current network and no bad blemishes on the blogs, there’s never been an issue. I’ve been on and off the site longer than most people that are here and would definitely be a level five had I just stayed on. Honestly, who gives a shit, I’m just here to get laid and you guys are here to make money.
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I’m with rocketed on this one. Been here for a while, but find providers I like and don’t really stray too often, though I keep looking for ones that appeal to me. I send out many messages, but can’t find too many I like. I’m paying for a service, I’m going to be picky. So I have gaps and I am a lowly level 1. Not everyone leaves me ratings even if I left one, and I am harmless and vanilla as it gets.
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Rickeyred. Should have figured my phone would auto correct stupidly
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I give up 😭😅😭
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Level 4 and 5 doesn't mean anything to me, just have seen enough providers.
If that was the case the higher level will get lower donations but I don't take any advantage of that.
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Not only level 5 guys
I think SOME guys on HX are just spoiled & cheap
Raise your prices ladies and stand firm
Make 🐱 Expensive Again
If they don’t want to pay what you ask
Don’t see them. PERIOD
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There used to be a club where Women could share info in relative confidence about cheap ass dudes. SMH
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Know your worth. Know your value. For sure and Charge whatever amount you want for your goods and services. Esquel Group is the world’s largest woven shirt manufacturer providing textiles to many familiar brands like Esquel supplies textile to companies such as Nike, Tommy Hilfiger, Li Ning, ANTA Sports, Fila, Giordano, Muji…..etc. I’m certain that the different brands are all selling the same product for different prices, but it’s the same shirt manufactured in the same plant. A shirt is a shirt. Higher prices generally result in fewer sales. Know the market for your wares, know your competition and price accordingly. If 20% of respondents believe that your product is overpriced, skip em. If 80% of respondents believe that your products is overpriced, reconsider what you’re doing and perhaps do something else completely. One thing is certain, a lvl 5 has purchased a whole lot of product, so perhaps they should inquire about a discount. Everyone has to weigh that for themselves. You can always say no, but if business is slow how can you make it grow and entice someone to buy something that they really don’t need.
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Stop whining
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When I send my menus and they request a discount, I simply decline. I’m not offended even when they ask for a 50% discount. I may on occasion offer a discount after we’ve seen each other based on certain factors.
When I first started, I too got a lot of backlash due to my menu and rates just as Lucious_alexa said. My menu may have a lot of important details but they answer all questions to avoid spending hours texting back and forth. That hour we spend answering questions just consumed that time out of my day. The negative review I got was from one of the men telling me off and trying to run my hobby. When I smartly responded, he gave me a negative review then blocked me. I guess to be fair, I should have reported all those characters who harassed me in the beginning. Moving on…
Unfortunately, I didn’t understand the hobby but I know who I am, what Zi want, what I can do, and my value for the hobby. I’m in the middle with rates based on my research and feedback. I offered specials before, but I have since stopped. I value my circle of friends as they see value in me. They treat me with respect and kindness and I do the same in return.
I’ve had many gentlemen in my circle who continue to see me frequently to this day and some are still on the old rates due to their frequency and commitment to me. Some of my others are happy to gift at the new rates. Then there are a handful who leave a generous bonus to show their appreciation. All of these men follow my rules and don’t attempt to negotiate.
It’s about my time whether we just chat during the hour or if we get intimate. Yes, I have several who give the premium including a bonus just to sit and talk.
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One more thought: if I had a boss and he came to me asking to pay me less for my services, I’d simply say no and give him one opportunity to accept my declination or move forward.
Price gouging one said: if you see the price and it’s out of your range, simply move on, or simply say it’s out of your range and propose your offer. Or just don’t respond. The attempt to humiliate the ladies because they don’t fit in your box is a telling statement of who you are. I see that as a red flag and would certainly not cave to a bully. You can be kind in your request.
“You get more with honey than you do with vinegar “
Stay safe and may the new year bring you success, joy, love, happiness, and a Shit ton of Sex!!!
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This is a compelling and original topic, and the derivations are quite insightful. I've encountered numerous blogs from women claiming that "level 5" men expect discounts on their ratings, yet I've never seen a "level 5" woman assert that she charges more for her status. What accounts for this discrepancy? Why is that? LOL
Moreover, the rating system operates on a fundamentally flawed algorithm. I've developed a few alternative models that I believe more accurately reflect active engagement in the hobby, rather than simply the duration of participation, especially when recent experience has diminished. For instance, if an individual is not actively involved, and therefore not demonstrating ongoing mental stability, current knowledge of safety standards, or up-to-date testing, shouldn't their rating gradually decrease over time? After all, doesn't a person's safety and competence rely more on recent actions and practices, rather than on past experiences—such as those from years ago—when determining their current ability to maintain safety?
Consider it from this perspective: Whom would you trust more? A level 5 individual who has consistently maintained strong ratings over the course of several years, or the same level 5 person who, in the past year, has significantly reduced their activity and received a few negative reports? Despite the obvious differences in the reliability of their recent behavior, my expectation is that their ratings would remain equally devastating to the person that gets it, even though the trustworthiness of the data should differ.
Heck, maybe I am wrong, I have not seen the algorithm.
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I trust whoever doesn’t try and haggle reads my menu and responds to my questions lol any level!! But definitely been here awhile to see level 5 love using there status and asking for less
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Do you people ever consider the terms of service before you start typing?
You might want to try it sometime.
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@grumpy
So that we all can better understand the errors of our ways and correct those offenses that would be perceived as violating the TOS. It would be beneficial for us in this blog and helpful for future readers to understand the violation of the TOS.
With respect!
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You have a version
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So what if a Level 5 ask you for less...and? He can ask for whatever he wants if you don't like it then keep it moving. He doesn't have to just go a long with ever you say.
I bet you wouldn't like it if that level 5 said to you that you couldn't ask for any money. and then just told you to shut up and go a long with it.
The more some of these women talk the more ignorant they begin to sound. Then they wonder why they get treated like shit. Take a look in the mirror.
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Say "I apologize but I cannot accommodate your request at this moment. In the event that you get the full requirement in the future, I would be absolutely thrilled to meet! I hope you soon"
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Oh, I have had a lot of people tell me what i should offer and what my prices should be. But i have had all levels do it. I have learned to be ok with not being as successful but I have met amazing gentlemen on here.
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I have never had a negative reaction from anyone after responding with, "I'm sorry, but my minimum is xxx." It is certainly their right to ask, and it is my prerogative to accept or reject. Inferring that they are "cheap" or a "douche bag" for even asking is certainly not going to secure an appointment and might possibly develop some negative press in the review clubs. So, why even go there?
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Marrisa_G you are smart. My only red is from an agency that rated me safe when I met one of the ladies. Later based on a blog and them not liking what I blogged about they changed their rating to unsafe even though I did not see anyone else with them. They even blocked me. I could have done the typical but not true and rated them red in Safety in retaliation (again against the system rules). I could have truthfully answered one of the questions and it probably would have given them red in something, but it was not worth it. I just listed info on my profile page.
I had a previous unknown 3 reds from a male probably because he did not like something I had blogged about in my earlier days. I did not even bother to write anything about that as it did not matter.
By keeping with your approach, you are replying kindly with the decline. Who knows maybe they did not have the money right now and really wanted to meet you. Your reply would not turn them off for any future possible meeting, when they might have additional resources.
Above are examples of how a male should respond to info declining to meet because it did not work with their perception and resources. Of course there are those that do not do this nicely and earn the rest of us a bad reputation.
In the US the price of an item when you go shop is the price on the tag (unless there are listed sales, discounts etc). In a lot of countries the system is different and they expect you to offer another price. In my profession, a repeat client will ask for a discount for my services even if I did a great job on the previous project. There are potential clients that want a cheaper price for my services. If I am busy I thank them for meeting with me about their project but state that is my price.
If I am not busy and backlogged, then I might consider their proposal or depending on how much they want to pay offer something in between. My problem is we are talking about weeks or longer of work to complete a project, so I have to be careful not to do this often since it will block out time working for a full paying client.
Doing something for a shorter period of time would give the owner more flexibility. They would then just have to decide if the price is worth the time they are giving to their project. Earn nothing or earn something. It will all depend on their schedule and what they want for themselves.
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You guys ask for lower prices?
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I�m not worried at all about my look from
Blogs I�ve actually been seen because of my outspoken ways you�re all missing the point of this blog being I�ve had plenty level 5 lowball and then continue to message me very simple for them to not respond after me sending my rates but to message sand ask for something that 1/4 of what I�m asking for and then proceeding to tell me they can rate me or so and so quoted this I�m not reaching out asking for money they�re messaging me let�s be real
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I hope my
Comments do turn people off and do not reach out to me unless you can honor my rates or my specials I’ve had plenty of gentleman say they will see me when they can afford or save and come back! Those are my favorite especially when I’m accommodating enthusiastic and fun! I mean I just gave my party extra time and filming because I had fun. Please if you are cheap do not see me let this blog tell you do not see me I respect your time as well as mine ask anyone in my network it’s worth it 
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A price break for being a high level is crazy lol
that means ladies with high levels can up charge???
To the new ladies...
A high level doesn't always mean they are amazing people, the best you can do is check the QUALITY of providers the men see, cross reference and see if they have red ratings or check their handle on the blogs to see more about them. Join CLUBS and check out the way people write and speak and express themselves to the ladies. Blogs cant tell you a lot about someone, if they are clean, honest, educated or even likable.
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For what it's worth, I'm a Level 5, and I always pay more than the amount. I know you ladies work hard, and I always appreciate everything and everyone from Hx
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I don’t get how spending money on Lady X, Lady Y and Lady Z entitles you to a special rate with Lady A. If you can sell that shit you’re pretty damn slick.
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Been around quite a while. Still a level "0" but IMO, it is just very wrong to ask for a discount.
Ruins the mood too....
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Wouldn’t it be like saying I’ve eaten a lot of burgers from McDonald’s and Burger King so Shake Shack owes me a discount?
I’m surprised they can say that with a straight face.
I’m not saying these ladies are hamburgers. It’s just an analogy.
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